[devil_mcry]

Hello i have a "big" problem with my pc & everest (last beta version)

Today i have change the ram timing because the auto setting of motherboard have load the tras setting with 18 ( the specific of ram is 5 5 5 15...)

previus changes i was look into everest this :


DIMM1 Clock Fine Delay 1T
DIMM2 Clock Fine Delay 3T
DIMM3 Clock Fine Delay 1T
DIMM4 Clock Fine Delay 3T

I haven't understan what is it however after changes DIMM1 and DIMM3 setting are lost!!!

I can look only two clock fine delay

DIMM2 Clock Fine Delay 2T
DIMM4 Clock Fine Delay 2T

I have restored bios with default configuration, i have updated the driver of p35 without solution.

Why? Is it a problem of motherboard :'(?

sorry for my bad english, please help me!

EDIT on the internet i have find other everest log where are lost 2 o 1 dimm clock setting (or 2-4 dimm, or 1-2-3 dimm, or 2-3-4 dimm)

is this a everest bug?

why doesn't it show all setting of clock fine delay ?

This post has been edited by devil_mcry: 19 February 2009 - 12:47 AM

[devil_mcry]

nobody knows?

This post has been edited by devil_mcry: 19 February 2009 - 11:01 AM

[devil_mcry]

http://forums.whirlp...cfm/994932.html


in this topic for example, User 230757 have posted the everest log but only dimm2 clock fine delay is showed... (p35)

or

in this topic, http://www.clunk.org...2.html#post4588 only two clock fine delay are showed (x38)


why :|??? I think is a bug of everest

UPDATE / EDIT

today i have just power on my desktop pc ( with "problem" of clock fine delay )

and i can look it

Elemento Valore
Proprietà del North Bridge
North Bridge Intel Bearlake P35
Velocità FSB supportate FSB800, FSB1066, FSB1333
Tipi di memoria supportati DDR2-667 SDRAM, DDR2-800 SDRAM, DDR3-800 SDRAM, DDR3-1066 SDRAM, DDR3-1333 SDRAM
Quantità di memoria massima disponibile 8 GB
Revisione / Stepping 02 / A2
Tipo package 1226 Pin FC-BGA
Dimensione package 3.4 cm x 3.4 cm
Voltaggio core 1.25 V
In-Order Queue Depth 12

Controller memoria
Tipo Dual Channel (128 bit)
Modalità attiva Dual Channel (128 bit)

Timing della memoria
CAS Latency (CL) 5T
RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 5T
RAS Precharge (tRP) 5T
RAS Active Time (tRAS) 15T
Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) 42T
Command Rate (CR) 2T
RAS To RAS Delay (tRRD) 3T
Write Recovery Time (tWR) 14T
Read To Read Delay (tRTR) Same Rank: 4T, Different Rank: 6T
Read To Write Delay (tRTW) 8T
Write To Read Delay (tWTR) Same Rank: 11T, Different Rank: 5T
Write To Write Delay (tWTW) Same Rank: 4T, Different Rank: 6T
Read To Precharge Delay (tRTP) 5T
Write To Precharge Delay (tWTP) 14T
Precharge To Precharge Delay (tPTP) 1T
Refresh Period (tREF) 3120T
DRAM Read ODT 3T
DRAM Write ODT 6T
MCH Read ODT 8T
Performance Level 9
Read Delay Phase Adjust Neutral
DIMM1 Clock Fine Delay 14T
DIMM2 Clock Fine Delay 2T
DIMM3 Clock Fine Delay 14T
DIMM4 Clock Fine Delay 2T

Correzione d'errore
ECC Non supportato
ChipKill ECC Non supportato
RAID Non supportato
ECC Scrubbing Non supportato

Slot di memoria
Slot DRAM #1 1 GB (DDR2-667 DDR2 SDRAM)
Slot DRAM #2 1 GB (DDR2-667 DDR2 SDRAM)

Controller PCI Express
PCI-E 1.0 x16 port #2 In uso @ x16 (ATI RV770 - High Definition Audio Controller, Sapphire Radeon HD 4850 Video Adapter)

Produttore chipset
Nome società Intel Corporation
Informazioni sul prodotto http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets
Download dei driver http://support.intel...upport/chipsets
Aggiornamenti BIOS http://www.esupport....fm?refererid=40
Aggiornamento driver http://driveragent.com?ref=59

now everest show dimm1 and dimm3 clock fine delay but the timing is very hight (yesterday 1, today 14 ...)
ah everest show only 3 standar fsb 800,1066 and 1333 but my motherboard (asus p5k pro) support also 1600mhz ... why?

thanks ^^

This post has been edited by devil_mcry: 19 February 2009 - 02:42 PM

[SoLoR]

maybe there is bios issue? i know my mobo (rampage formula) gives those delays "randomly" on each powerup/hard reboot, sometimes they are 0-4-0-4, next reboot ill get 1-5-1-5 or 1-5-1-4 or 0-5-0-4. DRAM clk delays in bios are always the same, but there suppose to be some bug in ai clock twister that is causing this, so maybe you have similar bug with your mobo since its asus as well as mine ? i might come around and check with my brother since he have same mb as you.

This post has been edited by SoLoR: 19 February 2009 - 03:18 PM

[devil_mcry]

maybe there is bios issue? i know my mobo (rampage formula) gives those delays "randomly" on each powerup/hard reboot, sometimes they are 0-4-0-4, next reboot ill get 1-5-1-5 or 1-5-1-4 or 0-5-0-4. DRAM clk delays in bios are always the same, but there suppose to be some bug in ai clock twister that is causing this, so maybe you have similar bug with your mobo since its asus as well as mine ? i might come around and check with my brother since he have same mb as you.

i don't know because in my bios i can't change this value.
is your bug a problem or it is normal in all asus rampage formula?
But improve clock fine delay the performances ?

when your monbo set 0 4 0 4 everest show only dimm2 and dimm4 or it show all clock fine delay?

ah I use this version : 5.00.1658 Beta but is equal with old version

This post has been edited by devil_mcry: 19 February 2009 - 03:33 PM

[SoLoR]

yeh my brother have also this "bug", seems like its kinda generic asus bug and im sure you can change clock delays, you just need to find them (hint: they are not avilable unless you turn on overclocking settings)

[devil_mcry]

yeh my brother have also this "bug", seems like its kinda generic asus bug and im sure you can change clock delays, you just need to find them (hint: they are not avilable unless you turn on overclocking settings)

yes i have overclocked my pc.

in jumper free configuration i can set a ram timing but clock fine delay no

where is it?

[SoLoR]

yes i have overclocked my pc.

in jumper free configuration i can set a ram timing but clock fine delay no

where is it?

p5k pro doesnt seems to have this option, but on rampage you have ai clock twister and dram clk skews that directly effect fine delays. And someone on XS forums figured out that on rampage formula ai clock twister is bugy and doesnt work properly on ANY setting (even on auto). You not having this option to change this two things doesnt mean you cant be effected by this bug, because bios still need to calulate them somehow and if "core" code is broken then we might be looking it to generic asus bios bug... but anyway with that small differences you shouldnt worry in any case unless you get stability issues because of it.

[devil_mcry]

p5k pro doesnt seems to have this option, but on rampage you have ai clock twister and dram clk skews that directly effect fine delays. And someone on XS forums figured out that on rampage formula ai clock twister is bugy and doesnt work properly on ANY setting (even on auto). You not having this option to change this two things doesnt mean you cant be effected by this bug, because bios still need to calulate them somehow and if "core" code is broken then we might be looking it to generic asus bios bug... but anyway with that small differences you shouldnt worry in any case unless you get stability issues because of it.

good

hence my motherboard is ok

only i don't understan why asus hide this setting into bios or, in your case, this setting into bios don't work correctly

now there are only one problem

why don't everest show some dimm clock fine delay? maybe when the value is 0t everest don't show it?

[SoLoR]

why don't everest show some dimm clock fine delay? maybe when the value is 0t everest don't show it?

yes ofc when i dont see certain fine delay i assume its 0T. Maybe it could show 0T instead of confusing some people tho

This post has been edited by SoLoR: 19 February 2009 - 04:31 PM

[devil_mcry]

yes ofc when i dont see certain fine delay i assume its 0T. Maybe it could show 0T instead of confusing some people tho

when your motherboar set 0-4-0-4 you view only dimm2 e dimm4 ?

mmm so it's solved the mystery perhap...

[Fiery]

The problem in EVEREST was that it translated 0 register values as invalid readings, instead of showing "0T". We've fixed it in the latest beta version of EVEREST Ultimate Edition available for download at:

http://www.lavalys.c...bp3dlksdc8x.zip

After upgrading to this new version, make sure to restart Windows to finalize the upgrade.

Let me know how it works.


Thanks,
Fiery

[devil_mcry]

The problem in EVEREST was that it translated 0 register values as invalid readings, instead of showing "0T". We've fixed it in the latest beta version of EVEREST Ultimate Edition available for download at:

http://www.lavalys.c...bp3dlksdc8x.zip

After upgrading to this new version, make sure to restart Windows to finalize the upgrade.

Let me know how it works.


Thanks,
Fiery

thanks Fiery

I go to install the new version, my pc now show 14 2 14 2 however tomorrow (and in the next day) I will check if the timing showed are 0t and i will update this topic.

For the moment THANKS



Updated!!!! It's Work correctly !!!

I have changed into bios the commad rate from auto to 2 (for updating the information)

and ...

Elemento Valore
Proprietà del North Bridge
North Bridge Intel Bearlake P35
Velocità FSB supportate FSB800, FSB1066, FSB1333
Tipi di memoria supportati DDR2-667 SDRAM, DDR2-800 SDRAM, DDR3-800 SDRAM, DDR3-1066 SDRAM, DDR3-1333 SDRAM
Quantità di memoria massima disponibile 8 GB
Revisione / Stepping 02 / A2
Tipo package 1226 Pin FC-BGA
Dimensione package 3.4 cm x 3.4 cm
Voltaggio core 1.25 V
In-Order Queue Depth 12

Controller memoria
Tipo Dual Channel (128 bit)
Modalità attiva Dual Channel (128 bit)

Timing della memoria
CAS Latency (CL) 5T
RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 5T
RAS Precharge (tRP) 5T
RAS Active Time (tRAS) 15T
Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) 42T
Command Rate (CR) 2T
RAS To RAS Delay (tRRD) 3T
Write Recovery Time (tWR) 14T
Read To Read Delay (tRTR) Same Rank: 4T, Different Rank: 6T
Read To Write Delay (tRTW) 8T
Write To Read Delay (tWTR) Same Rank: 11T, Different Rank: 5T
Write To Write Delay (tWTW) Same Rank: 4T, Different Rank: 6T
Read To Precharge Delay (tRTP) 5T
Write To Precharge Delay (tWTP) 14T
Precharge To Precharge Delay (tPTP) 1T
Refresh Period (tREF) 3120T
DRAM Read ODT 3T
DRAM Write ODT 6T
MCH Read ODT 8T
Performance Level 9
Read Delay Phase Adjust Neutral
DIMM1 Clock Fine Delay 0T
DIMM2 Clock Fine Delay 2T
DIMM3 Clock Fine Delay 0T
DIMM4 Clock Fine Delay 2T

Correzione d'errore
ECC Non supportato
ChipKill ECC Non supportato
RAID Non supportato
ECC Scrubbing Non supportato

Slot di memoria
Slot DRAM #1 1 GB (DDR2-667 DDR2 SDRAM)
Slot DRAM #2 1 GB (DDR2-667 DDR2 SDRAM)

Controller PCI Express
PCI-E 1.0 x16 port #2 In uso @ x16 (ATI RV770 - High Definition Audio Controller, Sapphire Radeon HD 4850 Video Adapter)

Produttore chipset
Nome società Intel Corporation
Informazioni sul prodotto http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets
Download dei driver http://support.intel...upport/chipsets
Aggiornamenti BIOS http://www.esupport....fm?refererid=40
Aggiornamento driver http://driveragent.com?ref=59

This post has been edited by devil_mcry: 19 February 2009 - 09:25 PM

[Fiery]

Thanks for the feedback

[devil_mcry]

Thanks for the feedback

thanks a you for the support